Comments on: Are you an edupunk librarian?

By: Kenley Neufeld

Kenley Neufeld — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:53:34 +0000

One element that none of the programs that highlight MIT, etc. is that we will still need the MIT's of the world to produce some of the content. Of course, if everyone/everything migrated outside an institution we would just have scholars providing content, right? It's an interesting environment.

We definitely need to start showing web 2.0; on my campus I serve on two IT-related committees and am chair of the committee on online instruction and this provides a great opportunity.

Do you work with my friend Cindi?

By: Kenley Neufeld

Kenley Neufeld — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:53:34 +0000

By: facebook-38307077

facebook-38307077 — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:27:38 +0000

I agree that I am worried about higher education as a whole. We see it in the library because the shifts caused our models to break earlier than the rest of the academy, but who is going to want to pay for a class here, when they can watch world-class lecturers on YouTube for free? Or see MIT syllabi, etc. for free?

Especially since many people seem to think that college is a "product" where they sit in a class and have knowledge poured into them, and then they go get a great salary, instead of seeing education as a "process" that is going to involve at least tears, and perhaps sweat and sometimes blood, as they challenge their assumptions and work to find the truth for themselves.

Going through the process is worth paying for, but does that have to include ivy-covered buildings?

So, I think librarians need to start showing faculty web 2.0 tools. So that we get prepared for the paradigm shift. Like Michael Wesch's ideas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4yApagnr0s as a start)

By: Kenley Neufeld

Kenley Neufeld — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:45:11 +0000

Thank you Daniela for bringing this to my attention; I will check it out.

By: Kenley Neufeld

Kenley Neufeld — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:43:40 +0000

I love you Steve; thank you for writing so beautifully (as usual) and singing the praises of the analog.

By: Daniela UoPeople

Daniela UoPeople — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:43:03 +0000

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By: stevesprinkel

stevesprinkel — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:41:45 +0000

We will always have books. I am reading some right now. Libraries are like banks-safety deposit banks, They maintain information securely, even if containing errors, whereas electronics, particularly the emerging, cliched, infosources like wiki are hackable, apt to be contaminated, open to too much editing, unfocused. And the info, the writing, can disappear.

I love both systems, and they should co-exist, but not at the expense of one.

And I can not read with pleasure and physical patience electronic material. I would never consider reading Robert Caro's latest book on Lyndon Johnson online, ever. It would be too tiring, and not portable, not comfortable.

Open sourcing implies the internet-based material. I am not afraid of the free-for all, but proof and hierarchy have their place. Your lucky your library is not critiqued by the sociopaths on YELP.

After educating myself for the past 40 years, post serious institutional experience, including 1 year at Harvard, I think that Harvard is not going away because its like the CIA, or the lobbyists who make sure that Westinghouse and GE get Defense Department funding. Its need is self perpetuating by past and current members of the community and the future community that will want to take advantage of the fast lane that is Harvard and the modest number of institutions like it.

How can alternatives break that clubby system ?

The wrong people are tasked with deciding whether to fund libraries. These are the same people who considered closing the state parks right before the no vacancy season.

My wife, ignorant of what I am writing right now, has just taken three books to bed with her.

But I believe that all the new ideas, critiques of longstanding systems, wondering, doubting, is fine. In the end we will decide that a laptop can not replace a book, that laptops lead more people to buy books than vice-versa, and the problems with libraries are that they are too small and not funded well.

We just got home from seeing the movie about Julia Child. It was all about a book.

And a blog.

By: buffyjhamilton

buffyjhamilton — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:15:23 +0000

I had just picked up my copy of Fast Company and had started to read the article on edupunks when I came across your blog post while searching for the e-copy. GREAT post—thanks for the excellent food for thought!

Best,
Buffy Hamilton

By: Kenley Neufeld

Kenley Neufeld — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:19:59 +0000

Great links Steven and thank you Patti for making the connection to traditional media.

Even though I recognize that user experience can be done with little or no money, and this is where I will focus, to do it at the level of Starbucks and the Ritz-Carlton will cost some money; I'm sure they spent a ton. Granted, we can learn from what they did in business and not spend as much money.

Keep the comments coming.

By: Steven Bell

Steven Bell — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:42:26 +0000

The good news is that it doesn't take any additional money or hi-tech to create a better library user experience based on totality, meaning and relationships. See: http://dbl.lishost.org/blog/2009/05/08/three-wa... and http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6673840...